6 Violin Spruce 2pc Tops Siblings Limited Edition Start Price USD 450.00 Current Price USD 450.00 Time Left 20 days 4 hours 23 minutes Bid Count 0 Buy It Now Price - Reserve Price - Start Time Friday, October 31, 2008 End Time Thursday, January 29, 2009 Location Highlands Ranch, Colorado See more about '6 Violin Spruce 2pc Tops Siblings Limited Edition ' Description 6 Units.  Low density group, about .37 specific gravity.    Item code  910D Excellently quartersawn.  Don't hesitate on this group, super nice, Professional Grade.  My supply of these old two piece tops at this quality level is not limitless.  Also, I will be attending the VSA Convention in Portland in November so you may want to buy some tops before that. These 6 units are from the same log, a perfect log, and all are very similar in look.    They are excellent acoustically.  I packaged these as a set for someone who wants to maintain a consistency in their top plates.  You should be able to make world class sound with these.  Aged wood.  Superb tap tone, as all my wood has.        These tops come from a tree that died in the late 1940's.  It has been drying since then.  The average relative humidity at the elevation that this tree grew, 10,200 feet, was about 30 to 35%.  This would equate to an equilibrium moisture content of well less than 10% for most of that time.  This old wood exhibits all the characteristics of the old spruce that people like Zygmuntowicz insist on using for violins.  If you are serious about your violin making, a group like this gives you alot of options.  Ask yourself :  "how do the best makers get to that $25,000 sound?"  I will give you a hint:  they buy wood from the same log and that eliminates a ton of variables.  Sometimes they buy 100 units.  Each new instrument reacts similar to the last.   Also, I cannot emphasize enough, the need for acoustically superb wood!  That is what I sell.  Do it right, nail the consistency in the wood down, then see what you can do!   Call me with any questions or thoughts.  303 507 5225 You get the items in the pictures.   .  This is rare wood and the price reflects that.    Approximate dimensions of each plate:  15.4" x 4.75+" x (22mm x 10mm)     Shipping cost:  Actual USPS Parcel Post, 8 pounds 7 ounces.   International is actual cost USPS Priority Mail International based on same weight, plus $5  No Handling fee.  To check shipping cost to your country use the ebay shipping calculator:   http://payments.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?EmitSellerShippingCalculator   Use the "shipping weight" as stated above and look for the USPS Priority Mail International price.  USPS Priority Mail International is my only international shipping service.  My zip code is 80129. I offer a shipping discount!    If you purchase multiple items, you do not need to pay the stated shipping on each one, wait for me to send an invoice that combines the items to one box.   The invoice I send will tell you how much shipping cost is needed for the total order.  This will save you money on your order.  If you buy 3 items, then the shipping weight will be calculated for those 3 items, then I calculate the shipping for one box at that weight, and that is what you pay. My Old Engelmann Spruce is the best wood you can buy for violin family instruments.    I warranty all high grade tops.  If there is a defect, I replace it.  I also sell several grades of tops, so if you don't want to buy the best grade I have lower grades that are still acoustically excellent and cost less.  My quality control and other factors allows for the fantastic results people are so happy with.  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ People are using my wood around the world. From Brazil to Iceland to Italy to Singapore to Australia. Right here in the USA by many of the TOP contemporary violin makers.   Some of these customers say it best with these verbatim testimonials below.  The all upper case letters are as written.  Thanks to all of you for the comments! The 6 tops have just arrived.  When I opened the box my jaw fell open as well, and I nearly fell over!   Spectacularily beautiful spruce, I've never seen better.  Thanks a million, they really are the business.  Dave in the UK,  September 2008  (my comment: these were some unreal one piece violin tops) I took it to my 70 year old luthier friend who has studied woods all his life and normally imports from Europe.  It was the finest spruce he has ever seen.  David  April 2008 Thank you for the amazing wood I got last week.  I never thought a soundpost could make such a difference!   Per in Europe, August 2008 I received the spruce billet and I wanted to tell you that it FULLY MEETS my expectations.  It as just as you described.  Ronnie in TN August 2008 I FINALLY got around to opening up the package you sent......Well anyway, WOW!   The Spruce is gorgeous!  John in the UK  May 2008 I received my order today.  I cannot thank you enough for providing such quality wood.  To find someone who actually delivers on what they advertise is greatly appreciated.  Stan  June 2008 The practice top I bought from you has really sold me on your Engelmann...all the best...Dick, United Kingdom  August 2008 Just a note to let you know I just finished the first White Violin purchased from you.  The wood quality was better than previous whites I had made.  What I did not expect was the OUTSTANDING mature and mellow sound that I got from this violin.  The Engelmann Spruce top really made a difference.  I will be buying more of these.  Thanks once again!  Dave in PA  July 2008 "I frankly needed to replace the post in one of my violins - a 1984 Severin Shurger – American. This is a very good but not an "exciting" instrument. The post was placed by me on 1/26. The result was both remarkable and unexpected. The violin gained volume and clarity. Tonally the instrument was rounder and distinctly more pleasant. As previously, all 4 strings remained in balance..  I do believe the wood you are both using and selling is the basis for the virtual transformation of my violin.  It could be argued that I placed the post in a better location. This is unlikely as I used a marked target to position the sound post.  If this experience is repeated by others I believe you will be the distributor  of one of the most valuable violin accessories money can buy,,,,,,,and how little money it is.  Congratulations,     Elliot Reichbach, MD February 2008 The wood you sent me for the last violin I made gave the instrument a great sound.  It has been recognized as an outstanding violin by many professional players.  I would recommend this wood to any violin maker.  Thanks again, George B in MA  December 2007 Love the wood, Thanks!!   James December 2007 The wood arrived yesterday and I am very pleased.  The spruce cookie looks great.  Thanks again, A violin Pro in MD, December 2007. By the way, I just set up a violin that I built using one of your low density 50 year old spruce units.  Amazing tone and volume.  Thanks, Ron in KY November 2007 The wood we ordered from you is the best we have found.  Thanks, Doyle in WV, November 2007 I am truly amazed by the quality of the wood you sent me and it looks even better to hold and see first hand than it did in your pictures of it.  I'm truly thankful to have dealt with an honest and efficient tonewood supplier.  Thanks Again,  Rob in the United Kindom,  November 2007  (this wood was the Combo Pack Fine grade) After 100 violins, I made my first Viola.  An anniversary gift for my wife.  Well, at the quartet party, with the best talent and instruments, this new Viola stood out.  With the good ears of these professionals, (one pro in particular- with his $16,000 Viola by a well known maker) they insisted on a blind sound test.  The first blind test ....my Viola won.  The subsequent test with another player...and it won again!  It's the wood.   Thanks again, Gary    October 2007    (Gary- Thanks, but you have to be pretty damn good at building, so it is a combination, Simeon) I just wanted to let you know that I just completed my first violin with your wood.  I was so impatient to hear the sound that I probably skimped on the finish, but WOW- this violin- the first I have ever made- sounds better than the Master Juzek, and even sweeter than the Hannibal Fagnola I have.  And it is not even played in.  It is a pleasure to have the best sounding violin be one I made myself, and part of the credit goes to that excellent wood you sold me.  Thanks!!  doubledave  September 2007 The only thing your wood oozes is Quality!  Cheers, Mark  September 2007 I just wanted to let you know I recieved the Professional Grade Spruce Violin Top today and couldn't be more pleased.  I just finished a Fiddle that was made out of your "lesser" grade spruce and it still made a good fiddle.  Thanks again, Darrell  August 2007 This is the BEST top wood I have used for mandolins.  Thanks, Steve in SC, August 2007 My 100th violin was the best ever.  There is no question that your old Engelmann is the key ingredient.  My professional violinist spouse claimed this latest violin as her own.   Her colleagues say it is very special and love to play it.  Gary in IL,   July 2007  Hi, I got the bass bars today and all i can say is "WOW".  This wood is exquisite.  I haven't seen any better in many years.  David  in NC  August 2007 Thanks again for the great wood.  Even the 5 violin sets for $50 I got on ebay is good.    Nathaniel,  August 2007 This wood is incredible!  This is primo numero uno wood!!  Thanks again, Jeff in OH From William R. Scott, 2006 Gold and Silver Medal winner:   I have been working with wood from Simeon Chambers for the past two years and have been extremely pleased.  At the last VSA Competition, both medal winning instruments were made from spruce he supplied.  Great Engelmann Spruce!  I would recommend it to anyone.  My best sounding so far.  Photos can be seen at www.scottviolins.com/photo.htm. This is the best top wood I have used for mandolins.  Thanks  Steve in SC,  August 2007 Thanks again Simeon, still the best wood on eBay.  John in VA I just received the wood today and wanted to let you know how happy I am with it.   I will definately buy all my spruce from you in the future.  Thanks... Jason in CA Just wanted to send you a quick note to let you know I received the mandolin tops today and am MORE than happy!!!  Thank you again, Jim in RI I purchased before and you have the best wood ever.  Virginia, NC Yes, the wood arrived.  Even better than I thought!  Your careful selection and convenient cut sizes makes my life easier.  The lovely fine even grain and sweet scent of the spruce, easily worked, not prone to splitting or cracking, is truly a pleasure to work with.   Errol, CA Hello Simeon, I just wanted to say thanks for the nicest tonewood I've seen!  Also, I wanted to tell you and your customersof the fantastic soundposts that I make out of your Engelmann Spruce.  They have greatly improved the overall tonal qualities of every violin I have put them in.  Thanks again, Steve The spruce tops you have sent me are the best I have used so far.   I made one violin and one viola with your spruce.  The sound was better than any I have made to date.  I hope to make a lot more.  George.  in MA Your wood is exceptional !! the tone is fantastic !!! I am a builder and experiment alot , I will send you pictures of a project that I am building from an Arch top set I got from you. As I carve and sand the tone just gets better and better . I recommend you to all luthiers if they want great wood at a good price . I received the wood today, and it is magnificent, it's way better than the photos on ebay.    Michael Received top wood today.  It all looks fantastic.  The bearclaw is stunning.  Thank you. Even with an extra 17.5% VAT on top of the cost, they are a tremendous value and I am delighted with them.  Ian, United Kingdom We tested one piece with a Lucchimeter and it got the best rating EVER of wood in the school.   Simon, United Kingdom I got your wood yesterday....It looks GREAT.....Thanks.  Dave in OR The wood is better than I had hoped for.    Virginia Just received your shipment with the one-piece top and soundpost material.  I'm in love!  Rudy I made one of my best sounding instruments ever using your wood.  George I'm making all my custome mandolins with your fantastic tone wood as long as the supply lasts.   Bill in IN I just strung up my F body mandolin, built using one of your one piece tops.  This is my best sounding mandolin to date.  Wonderful wood!  Barry in PA ...Anyway, the spruce is fabulous!  High grade tonewood; I will be ordering more of that stuff from you.  Bob I got the wood today, just fantastic!  Thanks for the extra piece also.   Bill The spruce is fantastic, not sure I can stop admiring it long enough to work it at the moment.  I can't express how greatful I am for your kindness..... I am very impressed with its tonal qualities and graining.  The piece i bought was not your highest grade but is as good as anything the UK suppliers sold at a similar grade.  David, UK ....my daughter's harp, it has amazing resonence.  Steve in AZ I received my tonewood today...I will be ordering more tonewood from you and not from other places.  Lynn I just got this F-5 strung up tonight that I made from your old Engelmann and man oh man what a sound this thing has!!!!!!!!!  Tremendous bass and incredible volume!!!!  This is just after being strung up for a couple of hours!!!  I love this wood!!!!  This is truly a rare breed of Engelmann.  Thanks again for your experience, honesty and your knowledge of cutting wood properly!!!    Jeff I have never experienced a wood of this caliber. The Englemann Spruce that I recieved from Simeon was incredible. I made one violin and one A Model mandolin using this wood and both sold immediately.   Against a Frailey mandolin, the analyzer said it was as good or better, and I can hear it!   A music teacher friend of mine who has played mandolin for 45 years, including on the Grande Ole Opry, and he told me that he would never look for a mandolin with a better sound. (than the A model from Simeon's wood). There are several reasons why the instrument tops I produce are acoustically Superior.     First:  Quality Control.  I am very precise in my log selection, and how I cut each unit.   I start with straight splitting logs with no twist.  The log is the raw material, and the raw material has to be very high grade to produce superior tonewood.   Second:  The sawing of each unit.  Before sawing, it starts with the splitting of each 18", 24" or 36" round.  To achieve acoustically superior tops, they have to start out as split "bolts".   Skill and precision are used to clean up one split face of the bolt so it is perfectly parallel to the sawn face.  This eliminates runout.  Good raw material can end up with average acoustics if it is sawn wrong!    Third:  The age of the wood.   This wood comes from trees that died in the 1940's and have stood dead ever since.   Since that time, these trees have dried out like wood in a shed.   The relative humidity of the air around the trees (that lived between 9,500 and 10,500 feet elevation) was on  average about 30%.  This allowed a moisture content (MC) of these stems, of about 7% to 12% for most all that time.    This wood is thus air dried for many years.  The stems are grayed and weathered like an old fencepost, there is no bark left and checking runs vertically up the tree.  You will find that this wood has the characteristics of aged spruce that is in such high demand by the best violin makers.     Not only are these trees old growth, but they are the trees that made up the forest when Lewis and Clark were exploring the west.  Most of these trees were alive when Stradivari was making violins as well.  Some of them would have been 16" in diameter at that time. Fourth:  Density.  The Specific Gravity of my wood on average is .35.  This is considerably less than European and Sitka at .40 to .48.  This is a monumental difference.  The physics of this disparity is one of the keys to building a consistent fine violin.  Even most Canadian Engelmann is a fair amount higher density.  Some of today's best violin makers are finding that a key to making the best violins is low density spruce.  Studies of the famous Cremona violins confirm this, as plates of violins averaged about 60 grams and most wer not abnormally thinned. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Some thoughts on the wood you may be using now, or considering: If you are going to spend 100 hours or more on an instrument, is an extra $20, or $30 or $50 for the best top available too much to pay?  I am sure that you can buy Sitka Spruce, Canadian Engelmann Spruce and even supposedly "decent" European Spruce for $20 or something around that figure.  Well, occasionally some of it may be just dandy, but most of it will not make an excellent sounding violin, viola, mandolin or whatever you make.   What really are they selling if they can sell it for $20?  Tonewood that is acoustically high quality is actually pretty rare.  A tonewood seller knows when something is exceptional or rare, and selling rare units for $20 is foolish, as they will not remain in business for long.  Or, perhaps they mix in low quality with high quality units and waste 100 hours of somebody's time when they sell one of these low grade units mixed in.  If you can tell the low from the high grade that you bought, and you only use the high grade, you have a higher cost anyway.  You buy a bunch more tops and only use some of them.  If a top wood unit is exceptional, it will not be $20 or $30   It will be more than that.   All my units from $12 to the highest priced are excellent acoustically.  I will sell you a piece of wood for between $20 and $120 that you may spend 200 hours on.  I will tell you that I am completely confident in the acoustic quality of my product.  I won't insult you with your potential time wasted, by selling an inferior product.  The wood I sell will not end up diminishing the effort and skill you use to make your instrument.   You are not guessing when you buy wood from me.   Perhaps you see what I am saying here.  Why take the chance of putting in all those hours, and expert craftsmanship to make an average sounding instrument!  It does not make any sense.  Does your wood supplier have testimonials like those above or some data behind their product?  I am not talking about the testimonials of "I get my wood from so and so, he's a great guy"  If there is not excellent data or something compelling to indicate that you get wood of the quality that will make an acoustically award winning instrument, why buy it?,   ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ For instrument plans that are exceptional, try http://stores.ebay.com/Pilgrims-Projects The plans are great that  Pilgrims Projects' sells because they are drawn very well, and have all the dimensions right down to the bracing pieces etc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Satisfaction guaranteed. I combine weights on your items to save you shipping cost. So, if you buy multiple items, I total the weight that will fit in one box, then I calculate the shipping charge.  (However, items longer than 24" usually ship by themselves.)  I think you will be very pleased with any of my wood. Call me if you need further details. Simeon Chambers 303 507 5225. chamberssim@qwest.net    . ..  Place a Bid!